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Kevin Trenberth's avatar

Isn't it amazing that these very real issues already causing major problems around the world, and about to get worse with help from the record El Nino, are lost in the media and instead AI risk are all the rage. No doubt AI could turn rogue, but climate change is already rogue and relentless. There is a major failure, especially in the US, to address this.

It is not just the climate change itself that matters but also its consequences especially in terms of environmental refugees. Many countries have shut their borders, including the US, and it will get worse, much worse, as regional conflicts, made worse and partly caused by climate change and food and water supplies, expand to become widespread.

It is not just a matter of adapting to the climate changes, but the widespread strife it causes and has been unreported - except in the context of AI.

Roger Pielke Jr.'s avatar

This post badly conflates model worlds with the real world.

CMIP7 extensions are not properly treated as providing likelihoods of the future, by design. The IAM runs go to 2100, and even to the end of the century, there is no likelihood attached to the scenarios.

Further, HIGH was designed to be exploratory, not projective and is not apples to apples with MEDIUM, as you treat it here.

US decarbonization rates have not changed in many decades and thus in no way offers a valid example of how a HIGH world might plausibly occur to 2150. As if what happens in the US can be used to project global emissions to 2150.

Of note, HIGH-2150 has the same cumulative emissions as RCP8.5 to 2100.

We doing this again? ;-)

The constant emphasis on apocalyptic futures is titillating, but will never be the basis for a wholesale transformation of the global energy economy. But using it to try to scare people might contribute to continued public loss of trust in climate advocates.

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