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Kevin Trenberth's avatar

One issue with this analysis, Zeke, is that there are several flavors of El Nino and at least 2 indices are needed to properly cover a good part of their variance. e.g.

Trenberth, K. E., and D. P. Stepaniak, 2001: Indices of El Niño evolution. J. Climate., 14, 1697-1701 [PDF]

Not sure the link to the pdf worked: it is available on my web site.

Also see:

Global temperature rises in steps – here’s why we can expect a steep climb this year and next. 12 July 2023

https://theconversation.com/global-temperature-rises-in-steps-heres-why-we-can-expect-a-steep-climb-this-year-and-next-209385

Thanks for the analysis

Kevin

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Paul's avatar

Nice analysis.

I do question how an El Nino most similar to the 1965-6 would cause this level of sustained warming.

I'm still wondering if the HTHH is the underlying cause, but I'll wait till next year for the SPARK papers to be published before I totally discount this.

There could be some other tipping point/catastrophe(*) that we're just not aware of. It will be interesting to see how 'sticky' this temperature spike continues to be.

(*) By catastrophe, I'm referring to Catastrophy Theory in mathematics. The idea that, in some non-linear systems, a gradual change in one variable (e.g. CO2) could cause an abrupt and irreversible change in another (e.g. temperature).

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